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Fazed
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Auto tune is not available on juice box pro. Only the Bazzaz and Power Commander have autotune.
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Marthy
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I never worked with the TBpro but some like it. I have the PCV-Autotune-LCD-200 triple combo. To do the job at 100% perfect this is the way to go. PCV let you swap between 2 maps on the fly, TBPro has 10 maps if I can remember well.
To be honest... once you got your map all dial in you only need one, maybe 2 if you want to lean out the cruising range AKA Touring map. I have the map switch on mine with Sport/Touring map. On long ride I like to use the DBkiller... I just use my laptop and upload the other map.
PCV has the acceleration pump (like it a lot) and an extra channel to hook up the PLX MAP sensor. The maps are compatible (work like an excel spreadsheet) Other than that they do about the same job, I just think you get a bit more bang with the PCV for few extra $$$.
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How does this whole map sensor thing work? How can we hook up it up to the autotune or PCV and then take the data to use it?
Thanks.
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DJK1505
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Just did a quick search on the PLX, is this a wide band that you can data log with?
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I just don't get how we can use its data to make maps. I believe that the MAP sensor is for intake pressure. Does the pcv make sense of this info or do we have to do it? This is sounding too high tech for me.
Marthy
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You got it all wrong.. let me explain. There's 2 way to build map with the PCV. TPS base or pressure base. Or you can use both at the same time. PLX make different things... I use there MAP sensor. So what I did is use the Autotune to make my Pressure map the same way I did my TPS map. Things are a bit different but they both work nicely together. The pressure map help under 20% throttle. Make the fueling table much more accurate. There's quite a difference 4000RPM at 15% throttle if you're on the gun... or coasting.
So now about the Data logging, I use the LCD-200 from dynojet. It plug right in the PCV and you can see all the engine parameters. In my case RPM, Pressure, A/F ratio, TPS, Fuel correction... You can a 1G memory card in the LCD-200 and log data from your ride. When you get back home you can upload all the data, anal-yze (ya, very easy to go crazy...) then do the changes needed. At the end when I felt like the map was getting very close I wasn't using the Autotune... I was making the change manually.
I tried to post a sample of one of my map but couldn't figure it out. If someone want to look at it I can send it to you... PM me your email. It won't work on the FZ8 but it will give you an idea how it work. You can activate the pressure map from one of the top menu.
PLX make few different sensors, that's the one I have:
www.plxdevices.com/product_info.php?id=SEMOSMVB
So now about the Data logging, I use the LCD-200 from dynojet. It plug right in the PCV and you can see all the engine parameters. In my case RPM, Pressure, A/F ratio, TPS, Fuel correction... You can a 1G memory card in the LCD-200 and log data from your ride. When you get back home you can upload all the data, anal-yze (ya, very easy to go crazy...) then do the changes needed. At the end when I felt like the map was getting very close I wasn't using the Autotune... I was making the change manually.
I tried to post a sample of one of my map but couldn't figure it out. If someone want to look at it I can send it to you... PM me your email. It won't work on the FZ8 but it will give you an idea how it work. You can activate the pressure map from one of the top menu.
PLX make few different sensors, that's the one I have:
www.plxdevices.com/product_info.php?id=SEMOSMVB
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bren
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I must admit- im a bit of a fan of this autotune:
[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh7UgAprdpM]Sweet Brown - Original Report and Autotune Remix.mp4 - YouTube[/ame]
Marthy
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The signal wire from the PLX box hook up to the extra channel on the PCV. Not that bad. I'm not a geek and kind of figure it out with a minimum help.
Marthy
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I build a map to work with my exhaust (Marthy Viper) for the FZ6R. To these days this is the best base map out there for the FZ6R. It's TPS base only and a lot of member use it. Even with TB exhaust...
My ride is a little more tricky. I was the first one to take the dive and install FZ6 cams.
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DJK1505
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I havent done much research on this yet, but just a quick look at Power Commanders web site, there is a new unit, the PCV-PTi. Has anyone looked into this more? From just a quick read it sounds like this is reading your pressure and allows you to build your fuel adjustment maps off the pressure tables. This is similar to what you are doing with the above mentioned, correct?
And it looks like it has the timing module built in. Huh gonna have to get back into the bike again. Been too busy learning about nissan motors and have put the bike up.
DJ
And it looks like it has the timing module built in. Huh gonna have to get back into the bike again. Been too busy learning about nissan motors and have put the bike up.
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Fazed
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The PCV-PTi appears to be aimed at forced induction applications with bikes such as the zx-14 and eye-abuser being in the application list. I think it is just a PCV with a 3 Bar MAP sensor, the same as what Marthy has done with his power commander by adding the PLX MAP sensor.
waypoint
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Well, here it is 6 days after I ordered the Juice Box Pro from ATVGalaxy.com and no product, no emailed tracking number or reason for the delay in shipping. BTW, they are about 45 miles from me so no matter how they shipped it, it should have been here in a day... 2 days max.
So I called them and, though they charged my credit card last tuesday when I purchased it, they have to "look into it" cause they don't even know if it's been shipped.
Totally worth the $20 I saved ordering from them, right? Blacklisted!
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DJK1505
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Damn that sux man!!
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Camo
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Well, here it is 6 days after I ordered the Juice Box Pro from ATVGalaxy.com and no product, no emailed tracking number or reason for the delay in shipping. BTW, they are about 45 miles from me so no matter how they shipped it, it should have been here in a day... 2 days max.
So I called them and, though they charged my credit card last tuesday when I purchased it, they have to "look into it" cause they don't even know if it's been shipped.
Totally worth the $20 I saved ordering from them, right? Blacklisted!
Unless they remedy the problem and have a viable excuse.... I jumped up and down about an online company and the huge delay not long ago. Turned out the direct supply had been held up, rendering the company's hands tied.
Hopefully it gets sorted quickly mate.
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Hoover
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Call your credit card company. Most CC purchases are insured if the company fails to deliver.
waypoint
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Absolutely! They have until tomorrow morning to cough up an explanation and tracking number or refund. If they don't, I'll make the call! Rat-Bastards!
waypoint
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Yea, I get it that sometimes shit happens that's outta their hands. All I need is a little love in the form of an email sayin "sorry, our vendor hasn't gotten us your product yet. But we'll keep ya posted!". Not too much to ask, right?
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DJK1505
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And if they dont come through you can cancel the TB, and order a PCV or Bazzaz! LOL
waypoint
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Hahaha... don't think that hasn't crossed my mind. maybe it's a sign!
Marthy
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Well, here it is 6 days after I ordered the Juice Box Pro from ATVGalaxy.com and no product, no emailed tracking number or reason for the delay in shipping. BTW, they are about 45 miles from me so no matter how they shipped it, it should have been here in a day... 2 days max.
So I called them and, though they charged my credit card last tuesday when I purchased it, they have to "look into it" cause they don't even know if it's been shipped.
Totally worth the $20 I saved ordering from them, right? Blacklisted!
Next time you have to order anything for your ride check out solomotoparts.com Ask for Tyler over there... he'll hook you up with some deal. Outstanding customer services also... Tell him Martin from the FZ6R forum send you...