The 2012 Vmax has a sport frame, fully adjustable fingertip suspension(front and rear), ABS brakes on the new GEN2. It will smoke any FZ8 in the twisties, not like the old Vmax that was more for dragstrip, the new Vmax is a killer 1/4 mile bike that you can scrape pegs with, handles very good for a big bike. The Vmax is a lot more comfortable on long trips due to its big seat and more upright position. I live in B.C and ride 99% twistie mountain passes , not many straight roads here. I planned on keeping the FZ8 as it was a blast to run around on, but every time i went to the garage the Vmax was irresistable. Vmax is not cheap, as Yamaha uses all its leading tech and engineering in this bike, but if you see one in person you will see how hi-tech and and incredibly engineered the bike is, took Yamaha's top engineers 10 years to develop the Gen 2 1700 Vmax, so you pay big $$$$ for them. There is only 195 available to Canada each year so they rarely go for a reduced price but i got 3 grand off after the guy that ordered it chickened out. If you look at the last Mag test of the Vmax,Quote" none of us were man enough to use the power and handling of the brutally insane Vmax" end quote. Truly a motorcycle experience that has to be ridden.